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on the one hand, this election is about the economy. and regardless of how tempting foreign policy is right now, come election day, voters care most about the economy. that's true i think every year. we know this from 2004. which was supposed to be an election on foreign policy and still exit polls showed most voters cared about the economy. so i think the advisors who want him to stay on message about the economy are right. however, the other side to this, and i guess i'm arguing two points here, the other side to this is, there are areas to exploit. obama's foreign policy has been whitewashed by his defenders and i think there are people on the right in the middle and honest people on the left who would be outraged to hear a little bit more about obama's failed promises. the problem mitt romney is going to have, he has to come at foreign policy from the left and right. that's tricky. from the right, he needs to talk about obama's policy of open hands versus clenched fists, have seen deterioration with relationships with russia, iran,
on the one hand, this election is about the economy. and regardless of how tempting foreign policy is right now, come election day, voters care most about the economy. that's true i think every year. we know this from 2004. which was supposed to be an election on foreign policy and still exit polls showed most voters cared about the economy. so i think the advisors who want him to stay on message about the economy are right. however, the other side to this, and i guess i'm arguing two points...
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than the rest by this softer economy. and so i would do what governor romney has been doing and that is continue to address the base issues. this is an election that has to look at how well we have done over the last four years. president obama was elected with this hope and this vision for change. and we have seen change actually for the worst. i think it is very fair to look at his record and say here is what he said four years ago and here is what he hasn't accomplished. so obviously a lot of tonight is going to be about president obama's record, just since four years ago president obama was looking back at the record of those he wanted to replace. >> former republican governor out here. thanks for coming on this. >>> the monthly private payrolls report is out today. markets are just opening. let's get to the market run down. becky quick is here on the other side of the camera. >> i like this. >> private payroll, adp. mid 100s. does it tell us anything? >> 162 is better than the street has been expecting. adp does payr
than the rest by this softer economy. and so i would do what governor romney has been doing and that is continue to address the base issues. this is an election that has to look at how well we have done over the last four years. president obama was elected with this hope and this vision for change. and we have seen change actually for the worst. i think it is very fair to look at his record and say here is what he said four years ago and here is what he hasn't accomplished. so obviously a lot...
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i think he needs to take it head on and talk about the economy. the jobs we have not created ore the last four years. take it right to barack obama and try to turn this question into an offensive against barack obama's economy over the last four years. i think that's the best chance he's got. i think he needs to be careful of sometimes with the question everybody nows you're going to get, you kind of practice it and practice it and instead of it being a heartfelt question, it becomes a robotic response. >> maybe you get a little preview of it because the romney campaign released it directly looking into the campaign video. let me play a little clip of that. >> more americans live in poverty than when president obama took office. we should measure our compassion by how many of our fellow americans are able to get good paying jobs. not by how many are on welfare. >> governor rendell, we've kind of gotten this prevau that they plan to emphasize different numbers. numbers about the economy they think will make americans think twice about whether the p
i think he needs to take it head on and talk about the economy. the jobs we have not created ore the last four years. take it right to barack obama and try to turn this question into an offensive against barack obama's economy over the last four years. i think that's the best chance he's got. i think he needs to be careful of sometimes with the question everybody nows you're going to get, you kind of practice it and practice it and instead of it being a heartfelt question, it becomes a robotic...
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on the economy, right? that's h the comments were perceived. to your question, ed, i want to add, this is not just having a trickledown effect to other senate races. the only shot we have at elecng a new woman governor is acly -- >> it's ticket-wide, no tion. >> who shouldn't be in a neck and neck race, but is, because of what's going on nationally with the gop. >> keli goff, sam stein. >>> coming up, a hidden video at a mitt romney fund-raiser has sparked controversy about mitt mney's past investments in china. we'll tell you all about it next. >>> up next, new dls about mitt romney's past investments in china. ttnepanvenlsut in china. >>> and later george w. bush is staying away from the campaign trail, but his trip to the cayman islands could be a headache for mitt. >>> when i was back in my private equity days we went to china to buy a factory there. and, boy, about 20,000 people, and they work in these huge factories. they make various small appliances. and we re wkingo fatyeiherke mber of hours they w
on the economy, right? that's h the comments were perceived. to your question, ed, i want to add, this is not just having a trickledown effect to other senate races. the only shot we have at elecng a new woman governor is acly -- >> it's ticket-wide, no tion. >> who shouldn't be in a neck and neck race, but is, because of what's going on nationally with the gop. >> keli goff, sam stein. >>> coming up, a hidden video at a mitt romney fund-raiser has sparked controversy...
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elect me, i can turn the economy around. but today the rationale for his entire campaign is crumbling. the new job numbers are out and unemployment has dropped to 7.8%. under 8% for the first time since president obama first came into office. that's progress on jobs and that's good for america. but it's absolutely demolishes a favorite romney talking point. >> three years later, unemployment is still above 8%. >> we've gone 41 months with unemployment above 8%. >> we've had 42 straight months with unemployment above 8%. >> still 8% with over 43 straight months. >> today, that talking point disintegrated and president obama has a strong record to campaign on. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to the lowest level since i took office. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> now, governor romney issued a statement today saying, quote, this is not what a real
elect me, i can turn the economy around. but today the rationale for his entire campaign is crumbling. the new job numbers are out and unemployment has dropped to 7.8%. under 8% for the first time since president obama first came into office. that's progress on jobs and that's good for america. but it's absolutely demolishes a favorite romney talking point. >> three years later, unemployment is still above 8%. >> we've gone 41 months with unemployment above 8%. >> we've had 42...
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he may not know it, but the economy is still lousy. you don't raise taxes now when the economy is lousy. >> to be continued, as always. governor sununu, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, andrea. >>> how will last night's debate impact the undecided vote here in battleground colorado? that next with democratic congressman -- congresswoman diana degette next on "andrea mitchell reports." of what'sot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance co
he may not know it, but the economy is still lousy. you don't raise taxes now when the economy is lousy. >> to be continued, as always. governor sununu, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, andrea. >>> how will last night's debate impact the undecided vote here in battleground colorado? that next with democratic congressman -- congresswoman diana degette next on "andrea mitchell reports." of what'sot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine....
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back, keep the economy moving in the right direction. the labor market is clearly improving. frankly, many of us -- i'm sure the president as well would like to see it improving more quickly. but it's unquestionably a recovery, unquestionably moving in the right direction. should it be moving there more quickly? would we like to see that? absolutely. but no question there's positive momentum. >> economists and the cbo have given the projection of roughly 12 million jobs to be added over the next four years. this was the big talking point for mitt romney is he will create these jobs during his presidency. but this is already an established number. that this is coming on the economic path that we're already on. >> effectively, yes. and the private economists and the cb o economists in their budget estimates have put this number out there. and, yeah, the path would allow for that, although we've only recaptured 5 million jobs of the 8 million lost in the recession in the last three or four years. so we don't know what that number is actuall
back, keep the economy moving in the right direction. the labor market is clearly improving. frankly, many of us -- i'm sure the president as well would like to see it improving more quickly. but it's unquestionably a recovery, unquestionably moving in the right direction. should it be moving there more quickly? would we like to see that? absolutely. but no question there's positive momentum. >> economists and the cbo have given the projection of roughly 12 million jobs to be added over...
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but let's get back to the economy, it was governor romney who talked about what he would do to create jobs. he's the one who put forward specifics about his plan. one thing that know one has talked about today is that his five-point plan includes increasing trade with central and south america. trade in our hemisphere, which is absolutely essential for us and easier and will build up central and south america so that it has more stable economies. >> one thing that came up last night was about mitt romney's plan to add 12 million jobs, but the economic forecast that's been projected by the cbo already says that 12 million jobs are going to be added over the next four years because of the current path we are on economically. so senators, i want to get you on the record about what came up about obama care last night and the arguments that were made back and forth on that front. who made the better argument about where we stand and what we need as a nation health care wise? >> we saw mr. romney as an etch-a-sketch. when he was running in the republican primary he moved to the right. yeste
but let's get back to the economy, it was governor romney who talked about what he would do to create jobs. he's the one who put forward specifics about his plan. one thing that know one has talked about today is that his five-point plan includes increasing trade with central and south america. trade in our hemisphere, which is absolutely essential for us and easier and will build up central and south america so that it has more stable economies. >> one thing that came up last night was...
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care, one segment on the role of economy. no question on vintage youtube clips which is a total bummer to those on the right hoping for more of this. it is teed up to be a debate about big ideas. is mitt romney going to deliver? >> i am sure that part of the reason this video is out there, just the day before, is to give romney the opportunity to, perhaps, reference it when you talk about the role of government, when you talk about the economy, he's got some phrases he likes to use about more people being on welfare and all of that, so i would imagine we'll hear some of that. i actually disagree with something mark said. i think this was very much a play for the base. even our nbc news poll, 23% of people said, that 47% comment made them like mitt romney better. so there are people out there who agree with those comments. >> aren't they locked up already? that's a question -- >> no. because remember we've also seen reuters has had the polling and a lot of polling that show some low-income southern whites are thinking he's too
care, one segment on the role of economy. no question on vintage youtube clips which is a total bummer to those on the right hoping for more of this. it is teed up to be a debate about big ideas. is mitt romney going to deliver? >> i am sure that part of the reason this video is out there, just the day before, is to give romney the opportunity to, perhaps, reference it when you talk about the role of government, when you talk about the economy, he's got some phrases he likes to use about...
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and future economies. let me play a clip from wednesday's debate. >> i think it's, frankly, not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens are going to be passed on to the next generation, and they're going to be paying the interest and the principle all their lives, and the amount of dead we're adding at a trillion a year is simply not moral. >> which brings us to your provocative article in the national journal, generational warfare, the case against parasitic baby boomers. you start reading it and it says i love my father, there's a lovely picture of your father and you accuse him and all the other parasite his age of breaking the sacred bargain that every generation will pass a better country on to their children than the one they inherited. and then he kind of kicks your butt in the argument when you try to point out point by point. tell us why you wrote this article. >> well, first off, i'd like to point out i win at the end. secondly, he also wins b
and future economies. let me play a clip from wednesday's debate. >> i think it's, frankly, not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens are going to be passed on to the next generation, and they're going to be paying the interest and the principle all their lives, and the amount of dead we're adding at a trillion a year is simply not moral. >> which brings us to your provocative article in the national journal, generational...
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i think they've heard a lot about the economy. and they're not interested in the minutia. >> governor, let me get your take on style versus substance. and can you really coach style? i mean, maybe you can say don't look at your watch, but aren't these guys who they are by now? >> i think a lot of it comes down to whether or not the candidates look like they're comfortable in their own skin. i think the president certainly does. and it's been perhaps more difficult for governor romney because he's had to change positions a number of times throughout the campaign. >> well, that's the democratic talking point. having said that, do you think that this is -- the debates are a lot about who would you rather have a beer with? who would you like to have lunch with? >> my sense is the debate is about who has the better vision for the country's future. who really understands the challenges. who's got the right plan and who's likeliest to make it happen. >> what do you think the biggest challenge is for the president? in bloomberg, al hunt s
i think they've heard a lot about the economy. and they're not interested in the minutia. >> governor, let me get your take on style versus substance. and can you really coach style? i mean, maybe you can say don't look at your watch, but aren't these guys who they are by now? >> i think a lot of it comes down to whether or not the candidates look like they're comfortable in their own skin. i think the president certainly does. and it's been perhaps more difficult for governor...
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between 50 and 1970, the economy grew at a rate of 3.9%. and this, when the average top marginal tax rate was 84.9%. now, compare this with the period from 1987 to the year 2010, when the average tax rate was just 36.4%. the economy grew at a far less robust rate of just 2.9%. we keep being told that mr. romney's been rehearsing his zingers. but let's hope that he's not going to use that line from president clinton, it's the economy, stupid, because the easiest response to that is, we know who's stupid when it comes to the economy. thanks so much for watching. thank you to the university of denver for hosting us. and to all of you watching at home. my colleague, chris mathews is also here in denver. he picks things up with "hardball." two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy -- and many are
between 50 and 1970, the economy grew at a rate of 3.9%. and this, when the average top marginal tax rate was 84.9%. now, compare this with the period from 1987 to the year 2010, when the average tax rate was just 36.4%. the economy grew at a far less robust rate of just 2.9%. we keep being told that mr. romney's been rehearsing his zingers. but let's hope that he's not going to use that line from president clinton, it's the economy, stupid, because the easiest response to that is, we know...
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governor romney, he came into this wanting to make it a referendum on president obama's stewardship of the economy, and very quickly it became about his own economic ideology and it became a choice between paul ryan and mitt romney and president obama and vice president biden's very different visions of our economic future. and so we're going to see that teased out again in the debate. i mean, those poll numbers are pretty locked in six weeks out. >> governor ed endell and alicia menendez, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks, rev. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the tea party were going to change washington. now they're hiding from their records. but we won't let them. that's next. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the gang just love pushing that right wing agenda of theirs. but voters, yeah, let's just say they didn't find it as c
governor romney, he came into this wanting to make it a referendum on president obama's stewardship of the economy, and very quickly it became about his own economic ideology and it became a choice between paul ryan and mitt romney and president obama and vice president biden's very different visions of our economic future. and so we're going to see that teased out again in the debate. i mean, those poll numbers are pretty locked in six weeks out. >> governor ed endell and alicia...
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if card check goes in place, it will kill america's entrepreneurial economy. the president is bowing to the demands of big labor. >> of all things he's bringing up card check, this red meat for the organization. to your point they're no dummy, but these people don't have to read. we live in a different world than even four years ago, cable news is a strong presence, 24 hour cycle, twitter a stronger presence around. his game plan seems to be behind the curve of what is now modern politics, anne. >> it's funny, i'm old enough to remember a time when candidates went into different places and talk about different issues thinking people wouldn't hear them in different parts of the country. i think he's trying to -- when he's talking about card check, that is a dog whistle to certain members of the republican party. a lot of average voters don't know what that is. it's a union issue. for people who care about the unions and care about the public sector unions we've talked so much about, that's a message he's sending specifically to them. he's trying to walk and che
if card check goes in place, it will kill america's entrepreneurial economy. the president is bowing to the demands of big labor. >> of all things he's bringing up card check, this red meat for the organization. to your point they're no dummy, but these people don't have to read. we live in a different world than even four years ago, cable news is a strong presence, 24 hour cycle, twitter a stronger presence around. his game plan seems to be behind the curve of what is now modern...
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the economy is struggling to get on its feet. why would you have congressman alan west and others say that the books are cooked when you could secertainly just point to the fact of the economy and the recovery is going slowly? why then put in this conspiracy somehow that the books were cooked? if the obama administration cooked the books, certainly the bush administration would have done so in those terrible years when the economy turned, or if someone in the administration has that kind of power. >> yeah. i actually agree 100% with mr. harwood and with tony whose tweet you quoted. you don't have to attack the integrity of the number to attack the substance of the numbers. 114,000 new jobs is nothing to celebrate. it takes 150,000 new jobs every month to absorb new work into the work force. we have 3.4 college graduates this year that need to find jobs and need 150,000 jobs to stosh them and the other people entering the work force. back in 2004 barack obama attacked president bush for a jobs report where 300,000 jobs were create
the economy is struggling to get on its feet. why would you have congressman alan west and others say that the books are cooked when you could secertainly just point to the fact of the economy and the recovery is going slowly? why then put in this conspiracy somehow that the books were cooked? if the obama administration cooked the books, certainly the bush administration would have done so in those terrible years when the economy turned, or if someone in the administration has that kind of...
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he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> i couldn't believe the other day when the president's opponents said that the 47% of the american people who don't pay income tax, just want to hang around and be dependent on the government, you know, we just had to ween them off of that because they didn't want to pay income tax. now, a guy with a tax account in the cayman islands is attacking other people for not wanting to -- i mean, you got to give him credit. >> bill clinton, back in new hampshire today, for the president. meanwhile, mitt romney is narrowing president obama's lead in our latest nbc news/"wall street journal" national poll but the battleground states show he has a difficult path to 270. tonight is his biggest chance to change the momentum of the campaign. what is his ga
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you should not raise taxes when the economy is in trouble. our economy is in more trouble today. the growth rate last week was a pathetic at 1. 2%. >> very much for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> we finally get to the issue that rich people need the money because they create the jobs. i want to bring in ed and al and steve and chris back into this discussion. i want to bring back chris matthews in denver in terms of hearing the republican spin on this. seeing what seems to be real democratic frustration on this. we're hearing already in terms of the different responses. the romney side is proclaiming victory. the obama campaign does not seem to be doing that. chris? >> when you read "the new york times" tomorrow, you'll see a side bar, strong night for romney. i think it's an objective -- it may be theater, but this is a major campaign event of the entire cycle. maybe the major campaign event treated as a lesson in information or education. it was a campaign event and both sides went at it to win and one side won. i go back to a couple of points. romney was able to get away
you should not raise taxes when the economy is in trouble. our economy is in more trouble today. the growth rate last week was a pathetic at 1. 2%. >> very much for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> we finally get to the issue that rich people need the money because they create the jobs. i want to bring in ed and al and steve and chris back into this discussion. i want to bring back chris matthews in denver in terms of hearing the republican spin on this. seeing what seems...
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naturally it will include the economy. now the latest polls somehow president obama erasing mitt romney's edge on that number one issue and actually leading in some polls who would better handle the economy. president obama is also using a new line. >> during campaign season you always hear a lot about patriotism. well, you know what? it's time for a new economic patriotism. an economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong and thriving middle class. >> joining any now "newsweek" columnist and cnbc contributor, zachary carabaugh. good friday, sir. economic patriotism is a new part of the lexicon here. >> it is a new part of the lexicon. it can mean just about anything. i don't mean to sound cynical about this. if you're for the president's economic policies, you're an economic patriot, and if you're against it, you're not. it's not a clear policy. it is a very catchy phrase. >> it is a very catchy phrase. in addition to being a centerpiece of a new ad, former ohio governor ted strick
naturally it will include the economy. now the latest polls somehow president obama erasing mitt romney's edge on that number one issue and actually leading in some polls who would better handle the economy. president obama is also using a new line. >> during campaign season you always hear a lot about patriotism. well, you know what? it's time for a new economic patriotism. an economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong and thriving middle...
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that basically make his case for what he's doing with the economy. sure he says nice things about teachers and some other stuff. infrastructure in a vague way but there was no boom, boom, boom. romney had that five-point plan to start with. it was effective. and then another five points. >> the preparation wasn't good enough. it wasn't that they didn't practice enough they didn't have a strategy for the debate. >> and they needed to execute -- >> all three of you one at a time. what do you think romney went in there to do tonight? what was his plan? >> his plan was to seem more moderate. to seem more specific. remember, he knew he'd be under attack for not being specific enough. and be being kind of wonky, he kind of blunted that attack of the president. and he also needed to seem confident and presidential and he achieved that. obama did not achieve his objectives. >> what was romney's plan. >> i saw a human side. for the first time i saw a human side. he came out of the gate, i knew this woman. this is her story. we haven't seen this. >> for a guy
that basically make his case for what he's doing with the economy. sure he says nice things about teachers and some other stuff. infrastructure in a vague way but there was no boom, boom, boom. romney had that five-point plan to start with. it was effective. and then another five points. >> the preparation wasn't good enough. it wasn't that they didn't practice enough they didn't have a strategy for the debate. >> and they needed to execute -- >> all three of you one at a...
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there's a lot of issues for the economy of the president to have on his mind. he can't just campaign and debate prep. he's the president of the united states. he has to weigh things on his mind. who knows what's on his mind at that particular point in time. i don't want to make excuses for him but to suggest he's lazy. president obama does more before 6:00 a.m. than john sununu will do in a month. he's the president of the united states and he has a lot of work to do -- >> professor, i think most people would agree that the president does more in his sleep than john sununu. karen finney, what was underneath this, referring to the president as lazy and a pizza boy? >> well, this is what we have seen time and again from the conservatives in terms of the lack of respect for this president. they have really demeaned the office of the presidency. you had a prominent conservative writer earlier this week essentially say the only reason, the only excuse possible as to why barack obama could be ahead in the polls is because he's black. i mean, this -- you also had john
there's a lot of issues for the economy of the president to have on his mind. he can't just campaign and debate prep. he's the president of the united states. he has to weigh things on his mind. who knows what's on his mind at that particular point in time. i don't want to make excuses for him but to suggest he's lazy. president obama does more before 6:00 a.m. than john sununu will do in a month. he's the president of the united states and he has a lot of work to do -- >> professor, i...
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they've tried to hang onto the economy and foreign policy. they don't -- they're not able to hang onto anything except, of course, for this stereotype that he keeps reinforcing as the rich, out of touch guy. i think going into the debate, like that's his biggest hurdle is to not say anything else that really grounds that stereotype and grounds that image that the american people have for him. >> so no mention of the 47%? anna marie cog and jonathan capehart, thank you, both. >>> next, do the math, mr. ryan. please, just do the math. stay with us. >> lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works, and you can -- >> but i have to -- >> let me -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too lock to go through all of the math. that was me still taking insulin with a vial and syringe. me, explaining what i was doing at breakfast. and me discovering novolog mix 70/30 flexpen. flexpen is pre-filled with your pre-mix insulin. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. no vials, syringes or cooler
they've tried to hang onto the economy and foreign policy. they don't -- they're not able to hang onto anything except, of course, for this stereotype that he keeps reinforcing as the rich, out of touch guy. i think going into the debate, like that's his biggest hurdle is to not say anything else that really grounds that stereotype and grounds that image that the american people have for him. >> so no mention of the 47%? anna marie cog and jonathan capehart, thank you, both. >>>...
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>> the big issue in new hampshire is always the economy and taxes. so, yeah, the obama campaign has been pumping tons of noneconomic ads up here, so to speak. the romney campaign in this next five weeks brings the examination back to the economic issue, the job issue, the 8% unemployment, 23 million unemployed or underemployed. that's what mitt romney has to start doing in the debate and in the next five weeks. and i think the election is still going to be decided on jobs. >> all right. governor john sununu, former governor of new hampshire. nice to talk with you. >> thank you. >>> next, we'll hear from the obama camp on this expectations game. what's at stake for the president? the dnc chairwoman will be here. >>> plus a judge is set to rule on whether a voter i.d. law that could swing a state that hasn't been a swing state but maybe put it is back in if it's put into place. and ballots are now being cast in another key battleground state. up to 35 states voting now. >>> today's trivia question. which politician has participated in the most general
>> the big issue in new hampshire is always the economy and taxes. so, yeah, the obama campaign has been pumping tons of noneconomic ads up here, so to speak. the romney campaign in this next five weeks brings the examination back to the economic issue, the job issue, the 8% unemployment, 23 million unemployed or underemployed. that's what mitt romney has to start doing in the debate and in the next five weeks. and i think the election is still going to be decided on jobs. >> all...
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it's the economy. i hate to quote james carville, but it's the economy, stupid, once again. part of why people are focusing on anything but the economy is because economic news is not good. they have not passed a -- any budget much less a balanced budget in years. it is unbelievable. >> quick, because i want to get some sound, but go ahead. >> real quick, this notion that somehow the president and democrats aren't out there talking about the economy is laughable. the problem with the romney campaign is not that they don't talk about the economy. they don't talk about their policies. it's the american people aren't buying it. they do not want to go back -- um not sure what it takes for the romney campaign to observe this revelation. but they do not want to go back to the same policies that created this mess. that is the fundamental problem with the romney campaign. you cannot keep selling what people do not want to buy. >> okay, you know what? jonathan. i want to throw this at you. newt gingrich was on "morning joe" this morning and he was talking about what romney needs to d
it's the economy. i hate to quote james carville, but it's the economy, stupid, once again. part of why people are focusing on anything but the economy is because economic news is not good. they have not passed a -- any budget much less a balanced budget in years. it is unbelievable. >> quick, because i want to get some sound, but go ahead. >> real quick, this notion that somehow the president and democrats aren't out there talking about the economy is laughable. the problem with...
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the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has a very good answer to that. and that's on offense. then you think about what he has to do on defense. he's going to be on the defense on the 47%. he's going to be on defense on his tax question. i mean, this is a guy who doesn't have very much to work with at this point. so it's hard for me to see, even if he doesn't make a major gaffe, which he does on a weekly basis, even if he doesn't, what ammunition does he have to actually have a good showing? >> i'm told there are examples of elections turning on debates, president bush for example started gaining on al gore when they faced off in 2000. is it usually the case that debates are quite the kind of game-changer that everybody thinks this one has to be for romney to do anything successfully in november? >> no, it's not. the historical data shows that i think we sort of exaggerate the role of debates. i would tip my hat to the washington monthly that has a nice article that goes through some of the political science and poll
the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has a very good answer to that. and that's on offense. then you think about what he has to do on defense. he's going to be on the defense on the 47%. he's going to be on defense on his tax question. i mean, this is a guy who doesn't have very much to work with at this point. so it's hard for me to see, even if he doesn't make a major gaffe, which he does on a weekly basis, even if he...
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poll by "the washington post" and the kaiser family foundation shows that medicare trails only the economy as the top voting issue in the swing states of florida, ohio, and virginia. and among voters who say medicare is extremely important to their vote, obama swamps romney by, get this, 13 points. when voters in those states were asked a similar question, woman they trusted to deal with the medicare program, obama again trumps romney in all the polls. in ohio obama leads romney on medicare by 19. in florida, 15. in virginia, 13. other polls have shown president obama's advantage on medicare has grown significantly since ryan joined the ticket. so let's go back to this again, trying to figure this out. he bought into a guy who was known primarily for this voucher plan, getting rid of medicare as we know it. basically go to a doctor and the bills are paid by medicare. you can't beat a system like that, joy ann, i don't think on this planet earth and have something paid for when you go to do it. there's nothing like it. >> and -- >> why would anybody want to change it? nobody would want to c
poll by "the washington post" and the kaiser family foundation shows that medicare trails only the economy as the top voting issue in the swing states of florida, ohio, and virginia. and among voters who say medicare is extremely important to their vote, obama swamps romney by, get this, 13 points. when voters in those states were asked a similar question, woman they trusted to deal with the medicare program, obama again trumps romney in all the polls. in ohio obama leads romney on...
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i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the debate unless they go off topic. chris cizilla, see you later. thank you so much. >>> and foreign policy is, of course, a crushing issue for all of those with soldiers deployed and their families at home and three more americans among the dead after a suicide bomber attacked a military patrol today in khost, afghanistan. the bomber struck a group of afghan police and u.s. troops as they walked through a market. the taliban claimed responsibility. nbc's lester holt is in kabul where he's been reporting for the past week and a half as part of a special nbc news series on region and conflict. lester, you have been on the ground, what is your take away on the green on blue attacks and this suicide attack which is different, at least the taliban taking responsibility? >> well, andrea, it's really in some ways all related that those three troops killed in khost today were operating with afghan national police on a joint patrol. that's part of the exit strategy for the u.s. to hand control over to the afghans. al
i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the debate unless they go off topic. chris cizilla, see you later. thank you so much. >>> and foreign policy is, of course, a crushing issue for all of those with soldiers deployed and their families at home and three more americans among the dead after a suicide bomber attacked a military patrol today in khost, afghanistan. the bomber struck a group of afghan police and u.s. troops as they walked through...
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the segments will include three on the economy, one on health care, one on governing, one on the role of government, and here is how it's going to work. moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations are going but both ann romney and first lady michelle obama will be there tomorrow night in denver. one more interesting note, martin, it is the first couple's 20th anniversary tomorrow night. they will be together, they will be together in denver, and they will have a proper celebration this weekend. >> wow. celebrating and working at the same time. nbc's kristin welker. thanks so much. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medica
the segments will include three on the economy, one on health care, one on governing, one on the role of government, and here is how it's going to work. moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate...
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it's no day to talk down the economy to score political points. but shadowing the president in virginia, mitt romney waited nine minutes deep into his scintillating stump speech before even mentioning the big news of the day, delivering it like a speech at a funeral. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month, and the unemployment rate, as you know, to this year has come down very, very slowly. of course, even those that have jobs are having tough times. >> okay. but give mr. romney credit because he actually admits the unemployment rate did come down. unlike prominent conservative jack welch who tweeted this morning, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. okay. tuesday he was a ruthless race baiter. yesterday he was a feckless delivery boy. today he's don corleone, and there's more where that came from. congressman west, take it away. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is act
it's no day to talk down the economy to score political points. but shadowing the president in virginia, mitt romney waited nine minutes deep into his scintillating stump speech before even mentioning the big news of the day, delivering it like a speech at a funeral. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month, and the unemployment rate, as you know, to this year has come down very, very slowly. of course, even those that have jobs are having tough times. >>...
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do you think we should build the economy from the middle class out like the president does or the top down like mitt romney does? >> credit ben labolt, thanks for joining us today. >> thanks. >> we say good morning to our tuesday political power panel. leah henderson, ted devine, senior strategist for al gore and john kerry. eugene robinson wrote in "the washington post" the challenges facing mitt romney in this debate, but going specifically saying romney's task is more difficult. for the umpteenth time he has to introduce himself to the american people and erase all the impressions of the mitt romney we met earlier and reveal a coherent person, one voters can imagine as a leader. is this debate more romney against himself? critics paint him displaying this flaccid leadership. >> he has to present himself as a president who would represent all americans. he said that several times. he's practicing that debate line. here again, even when he engages with that comment, it reminds people of that 47% remark. you see him over the last couple of days. i think it was today there is an interv
do you think we should build the economy from the middle class out like the president does or the top down like mitt romney does? >> credit ben labolt, thanks for joining us today. >> thanks. >> we say good morning to our tuesday political power panel. leah henderson, ted devine, senior strategist for al gore and john kerry. eugene robinson wrote in "the washington post" the challenges facing mitt romney in this debate, but going specifically saying romney's task is...
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, the economy was in free fall. and since then, it's gotten better. at first, it got worse at a slower rate. that's not a great slogan. but for the last 2 1/2 years, it has gotten steadily better in the sense that jobs have grown every year. every month. >> and sam, when you talk to the obama campaign, the particular way they see the voters who are going to side with them, or at least a lot of them practically swing voters, is what they believe, as alice said, we have a very deep hole to dig out of. we're not there but we're doing as good as we can expect to be doing. and there's been there important psychological barrier of 8%. does getting underneath that barrier to 7.8% really do much for president obama's talking point, that we have come a long way and now voters should let him finish the job, or do these kind of changes in numbers matter in washington but they're not what voters see around them so they're kind of a story here but not actually in the campaign. >> first of all i'm glad you asked alice the economi
, the economy was in free fall. and since then, it's gotten better. at first, it got worse at a slower rate. that's not a great slogan. but for the last 2 1/2 years, it has gotten steadily better in the sense that jobs have grown every year. every month. >> and sam, when you talk to the obama campaign, the particular way they see the voters who are going to side with them, or at least a lot of them practically swing voters, is what they believe, as alice said, we have a very deep hole to...
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and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access to a presidential debate like this and would you remind everybody that gwen eiffel moderated the '04 debate, an honor, but not a game changer, but you did write a piece -- we have candy crowley, who has the duties for one of these debates. you say don't forget, you will be treated differently because you are a woman. how is it different for women or minority moderators, when it comes to those tough questions on a woman's right to choose. is there an extra cautious line women need to take in asking that? >> she's not going to have the chance. that's what i'm upset about. candy is going to have the same format that i had, which is the town hall format. that's questions from the audience. questions from the voters. it's not questions from the moderator. she will hold the microphone for the other people the way i did. and she won't get to ask her own questions
and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access to a presidential debate like this and would you remind everybody that gwen eiffel moderated the '04 debate, an honor, but not a game changer, but you did write a piece -- we have candy crowley, who has the duties for one of these debates. you say don't forget, you will be treated differently because you are a woman. how is it...
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the economy, the whole system was on the verge of collapse. the stock market was down in the 6,000s. and obama made two decisions. one was to prop the thing up and keep it going in alliance with other countries around the world and literally saved the fortunes of a lot of these people. but he made a second decision. there were progressives who thought we should have asked more questions about how did we get into this mess in the first place and president obama didn't go there because his advisers were worried if you push the system too hard, it might collapse. and so here are folks whose fortunes were saved in significant part by the president's policies and they are complaining because he doesn't say thank you to them. it's very strange. >> these guys got exactly what they wanted and just won't admit it. let's play more sound from sam zell. >> we need leadership, not criticism. until that scenario changes, i think the united states is, quote, unquote, and i hate to use this word, in a malaise. >> what the hell is he talking about? he's being
the economy, the whole system was on the verge of collapse. the stock market was down in the 6,000s. and obama made two decisions. one was to prop the thing up and keep it going in alliance with other countries around the world and literally saved the fortunes of a lot of these people. but he made a second decision. there were progressives who thought we should have asked more questions about how did we get into this mess in the first place and president obama didn't go there because his...
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how do they go out now and talk down the economy even further? it's really difficult to do given this significant accomplishment. and i think what is even more significant about this, you know, after the debate performance in which we all agree was not good on behalf of the president, the republicans and the governor, governor romney's campaign thought they had momentum. this now i would say has popped that balloon in a significant way and allows the president now to go out there as he did today in a very forceful way and make the argument that the country is moving in the right direction. you do not want to take us back in the wrong direction. >> you know, in a lame duck session of the congress we had this big discussion about the bush tax cuts. the republicans are so far off their game right now their reaction today should have been well we told president obama to extend the bush tax cuts. you can't raise taxes on the job creators. they don't even know their own talking points. what do they do now? they come out and accuse the president and the
how do they go out now and talk down the economy even further? it's really difficult to do given this significant accomplishment. and i think what is even more significant about this, you know, after the debate performance in which we all agree was not good on behalf of the president, the republicans and the governor, governor romney's campaign thought they had momentum. this now i would say has popped that balloon in a significant way and allows the president now to go out there as he did...
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the economy looks better than romney does. that's the problem he faces. >> one of his biggest challenges tonight is to stand on that stage and convince people watching, something north of 60 million people will tune in, that he understands the lives and problems of average americans, ordinary americans, the people struggling to put food on the table. >> that would be a fraud, though, doesn't he? we've been watching this guy for weeks and months and months and years now, running for president. there's been no evidence he gets it. >> you know, that's my conclusion, but i think if he's going to truly reset this -- even to get a second look, i think he needs to be able to connect on a level that he hasn't done. >> that's what people say -- >> he's not occasionally -- >> i gave this guy a second look. >> i think if he has a strong performance, if he does talk about economy and big ideas and is able to show himself as a humane person -- >> but you say this -- >> anything with a -- >> you're a skeptic. >> i am. i think he will win on
the economy looks better than romney does. that's the problem he faces. >> one of his biggest challenges tonight is to stand on that stage and convince people watching, something north of 60 million people will tune in, that he understands the lives and problems of average americans, ordinary americans, the people struggling to put food on the table. >> that would be a fraud, though, doesn't he? we've been watching this guy for weeks and months and months and years now, running for...
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>> today's news certainly is not an excuse to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> fresh from his successful debate performance, mitt romney tries to clean up his 47% blunder. >> now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right and in this case i said something that's just completely wrong and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> plus, late night's take on the mile-high debate. >> there is no red america, there is no blue america, there is only the america that can't believe how bad this guy did in the debate. romney won with the sound off. dude, he's yelling at you, look up! look up! what are you looking at, writing that's so important -- oh, that's nice. i didn't realize. that is impressive work. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. >> romney will come across as empathetic. but here's
>> today's news certainly is not an excuse to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> fresh from his successful debate performance, mitt romney tries to clean up his 47% blunder. >> now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right and...
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the economy created more jobs than previously estimated. there are people who don't like this number at all. leading the band is the legendary ceo of general electric, jack welsh. here's the tweet you put out this morning. unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. and i'm just wondering, i understand the way it works the president gets a heads up on the unemployment number 4:00 the day before and has to keep it to himself. you're saying in your tweet this morning that the news went the other way, the people working for the president somehow got the bureau of labor statistics and played with the numbers so it's down below 8 today. how does it work from your perspective? what happened here? >> all i can talk about are some of the numbers. we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate, from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions. ton
the economy created more jobs than previously estimated. there are people who don't like this number at all. leading the band is the legendary ceo of general electric, jack welsh. here's the tweet you put out this morning. unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. and i'm just wondering, i understand the way it works the president gets a heads up on the unemployment number 4:00 the day before and has to keep it to himself. you're saying in...
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is it strictly the economy? >> yeah, thomas. it's the economy. here in nevada i think we have arguably the worst economy if the nation. highest unemployment up over 12%. we have the housing crisis you mentioned. president obama has been able to come to this state and talk about housing a little bit. he went to reno a few months back. talked about how one of his programs is helping a couple here. mitt romney has helped president obama by making some unfortunate comments about letting the foreclosure crisis, letting the market hit bottom. but you mentioned the briefing booklet buying comments that woodward reported made on early in the administration when he decided not to take an aggressive stance against housing problem. the housing problem here in nevada is why the economy -- it's stalling the economy in any comeback here. >> nbc wall street journal poll shows nevada's vote irs are undecided. but here's the president talking about this debate this weekend while in nevada. take a look. >> you may have heard that in a few days my opponent in this
is it strictly the economy? >> yeah, thomas. it's the economy. here in nevada i think we have arguably the worst economy if the nation. highest unemployment up over 12%. we have the housing crisis you mentioned. president obama has been able to come to this state and talk about housing a little bit. he went to reno a few months back. talked about how one of his programs is helping a couple here. mitt romney has helped president obama by making some unfortunate comments about letting the...
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economy on government. >> okay. >> we're now spending the 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> yeah, but, mr. president, you're saying in order to get it -- get the job done, it's got to be balanced? >> if we're serious, we've got to take a balanced, responsible approach. and by the way, this is not just when it comes to individual taxes. let's talk about corporate taxes. now, i've identified areas where we can, right away, make a change that i believe would actually help the economy. the oil industry gets $4 billion a year in corporate welfare. basically, they get deductions that those small businesses that governor romney refers to, they don't get. now, does anybody think that exxonmobil needs some extra money, when they're making money every time you go to the pump? why wouldn't we want to eliminate that? why wouldn't we eliminate tax breaks for co
economy on government. >> okay. >> we're now spending the 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> yeah, but, mr. president, you're saying in order to get it -- get the job done, it's got to be balanced? >> if we're serious, we've got to take a balanced, responsible approach. and by the way, this is not just when it...
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just think if president obama had inherited bill clinton's economy, a surplus. that wasn't the case. so i think the president needs to remind america where we were and where we have been and the accomplishments that we've made. as far as mitt romney is concerned, romney can go after president obama all he wants tonight. he's got some serious repair work to do after the 47% comment, because that was a real snapshot as to who he is. plus, his private sector experience has got a checkered past. he's an outsource iceoutsourcer. he's a guy who's gone to the bottom line who hasn't been good to middle class families. he can't put a number on how many jobs he's actually created. but we hear these testimonials more and more all the time because of the hardship the middle class has gone through because of the economic model he presented in the private sector. that is a huge target for the president tonight, and i think he'll exploit it. >> steve schmidt, from a republican perspective, looking at that plus 19 number that president obama has got on handling issue of the mid
just think if president obama had inherited bill clinton's economy, a surplus. that wasn't the case. so i think the president needs to remind america where we were and where we have been and the accomplishments that we've made. as far as mitt romney is concerned, romney can go after president obama all he wants tonight. he's got some serious repair work to do after the 47% comment, because that was a real snapshot as to who he is. plus, his private sector experience has got a checkered past....
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very important for our economy. and, you know, governor romney ought to tell his running mate paul ryan to call up the house republican leadership of what he is a member and get this done. so that we can give security and a guarantee to the middle class of this country and our economy that taxes aren't going to go up next year. >> do you believe the fundamentals of this campaign have changed from wednesday morning to today? >> i don't think so, chuck. obviously though we'll be able to evaluate that in coming days. my sense is, you know, we've got a pretty important lead in some battleground states. >> you don't think that is going to clang? >> we don't think so. first of all you know the president's, you know, got a high support level. you know, 49, 50, 51 depending on the state. we like what we're seeing in terms of early vote and absentee ballot requests. we don't think that is going to change. we're going to be able to measure this. i'm sure the romney campaign says they're raising a lot of money. i'm sure that i
very important for our economy. and, you know, governor romney ought to tell his running mate paul ryan to call up the house republican leadership of what he is a member and get this done. so that we can give security and a guarantee to the middle class of this country and our economy that taxes aren't going to go up next year. >> do you believe the fundamentals of this campaign have changed from wednesday morning to today? >> i don't think so, chuck. obviously though we'll be able...
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as somebody who projects an air of authority, especially when he talks about the economy. that is the private sector track record. the flip side, the weakness is the 47%. some of the attacks he's taken in terms of that business record. i think mitt romney's biggest problem though, chris, is the sense people can't be sure exactly if he believes what he's saying. he needs to project authentic passion for what he believes his plan would do for the american economy to make the 47% lives better as well as the other 53. >> what do you think, e.j.? >> i thought the definitive line on politics, what you need is sincerity, if you can fake that, you can do anything. it's troublesome on this question of authenticate. what is authenticity? romney has taken a number of positions on issues which you will be sure obama will try to sneak in there somehow. he can be ferocious and disciplined. go back to that newt gingrich debate in florida where he dispatched newt gingrich. he can be very good. i think he can have real highs, but also can have lows and say the darnedest things sometimes. >
as somebody who projects an air of authority, especially when he talks about the economy. that is the private sector track record. the flip side, the weakness is the 47%. some of the attacks he's taken in terms of that business record. i think mitt romney's biggest problem though, chris, is the sense people can't be sure exactly if he believes what he's saying. he needs to project authentic passion for what he believes his plan would do for the american economy to make the 47% lives better as...
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put it in "the new york times," quote, the governor's done great job of convincing people that the economy's bad. he's got do a better job of making case that president obama's directly responsible for that. that's got to be his focus. if it becomes about anything else, then i think the governor's at a disadvantage. expect romney to go on offense, he has to. as someone in the campaign, perhaps unhelpfully leaked to "the new york times," quote, romney's team has conclude thad debates are about creating moments and it's equipped him with a series of zingers that he has memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. well, so much for keeping expectations low, right? romney also has to prove he can be 'depressive without allowing the president to get under his skin. he joked about how portman has been supporting him. >> he plays barack obama. we get a chance to debate one another. after an hour and a half or so is over, i want to kick him out of the room. >> another debate goal is his policies aren't just rehashed bush material. those are things he failed to live up to. while the campa
put it in "the new york times," quote, the governor's done great job of convincing people that the economy's bad. he's got do a better job of making case that president obama's directly responsible for that. that's got to be his focus. if it becomes about anything else, then i think the governor's at a disadvantage. expect romney to go on offense, he has to. as someone in the campaign, perhaps unhelpfully leaked to "the new york times," quote, romney's team has conclude thad...
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the economy is starting to turn. the president hopes that speeds up. 55% say the economy is the most important thing, that's what's on their mind. watch out, this fiscal cliff thing is a big deal and coming up quick. >> josh, you have business owners a couple years said we're not going to invest, we will keep 3 trillion on the sidelines, don't know what will happen because of regulations, are they going to raise taxes. we have a third reason for business owners to be scared. what happens with the fiscal cliff and when we go over the side of the cliff. what happens when you raise taxes, cut spending at the same time? i mean, it is a horrifying business climate that will only cause the economy to grind to a halt more, which again leads to the question why is mitt romney losing. >> it is. and the only real certainty is it is not something that gets decided before the election. one of the ironies is that for all of the bad news, if you look at consumer confidence, it shot up the last few days since the democratic convent
the economy is starting to turn. the president hopes that speeds up. 55% say the economy is the most important thing, that's what's on their mind. watch out, this fiscal cliff thing is a big deal and coming up quick. >> josh, you have business owners a couple years said we're not going to invest, we will keep 3 trillion on the sidelines, don't know what will happen because of regulations, are they going to raise taxes. we have a third reason for business owners to be scared. what happens...
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>> we have to remember where the economy was at that point. there was thought that the market would go down to 3,000. there was a fear of actual collapse and i think what the president did is let's stabilize the economy. what's resonating in ohio and other places is his focus on manufacturing, on exports. people are respondsing to a sense that he has a long-term vision to what's going to make america economically competitive. i think what the president's strategy was is let's stabilize the financial system and then build a new strong foundation. >> but what does that vision -- part of the issue there, right, is there's the vision in the future which he talks about all the time and then there's the current problem and i think -- i felt sometimes a little lack of urgency coming out of washington about the jobs crisis and even in terms the way the president talks about the present from the white house itself in terms of talking about jobs. >> well, i think that the president if you look at what they did with the small business administration, wit
>> we have to remember where the economy was at that point. there was thought that the market would go down to 3,000. there was a fear of actual collapse and i think what the president did is let's stabilize the economy. what's resonating in ohio and other places is his focus on manufacturing, on exports. people are respondsing to a sense that he has a long-term vision to what's going to make america economically competitive. i think what the president's strategy was is let's stabilize...
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economy, but it's really many economies. so if you happen to be a constructions worker or sort of a lower-scale manufacturing worker, no, the economy is not getting better for you. it stinks. if you're unemployed it's still very hard to find a job. if you have a job, well, layoffs are at more than a 10-year low so your job security is pretty good. it really depends on who your and where you are. for a lot of people, things are okay right now. >> can you not stay away so long? great discussion. all right. thanks very much. >> thanks for having me, alex. >>> joining me live for more, from the democratic national committee, melanie, welcome. i want to first of all get your reaction to these conspiracy theories. will there be any sort of a formal response to them? >> well, i think what rick new man just said is a consensus here in washington that any allegations that the bureau of labor statistics would cook the numbers is ridiculous. it's outlandish. but it's not surprising coming from a republican party that has talked about d
economy, but it's really many economies. so if you happen to be a constructions worker or sort of a lower-scale manufacturing worker, no, the economy is not getting better for you. it stinks. if you're unemployed it's still very hard to find a job. if you have a job, well, layoffs are at more than a 10-year low so your job security is pretty good. it really depends on who your and where you are. for a lot of people, things are okay right now. >> can you not stay away so long? great...